The Secret Society - On The Atlantic


A jolt in the air makes me think of the electricity room in The Franklin Institute, Augo may be on to something!


I’ve been trying to wrap my brain around this set of clues, but I feel like the things I’m pulling from it are more vague when taken as individual lines…so to approach it a different way, the first stanza is definitely giving me transportation-y vibes. Wheels, wings, and wires all fit into that (wheels would describe a lot of things, wings like airplanes, wires like cable cars or trolleys). The “things that grow but aren’t alive” is a tougher sell, but could be transportation networks expanding out or connecting. “Travel between north and south” could describe a lot of transportation features - roads, train lines, trails, etc, and “twinkle in the sky” could be airplane related again.

So trying to think of transportation things that would be safe to check…plenty of highways go north/south but walking around near those would be A Bad Plan. Something that came to me was that the only train line through town is oriented essentially north/south until you get a good ways away, something that appears to be unique on this particular railway…so that might be worth a shot to look into. Otherwise, there’s a small airport near me but I don’t think I could get close to it.

That might be a long-shot or a highly over-thought interpretation, so I’ll keep brainstorming, but I thought I’d put it out there in case it jogs something with someone else too.


Everytime I think of airplanes as a clue, I can only think of Wright-Paterson Airforce Base and the US Air and Space Museum, the only things near me. Only one of those is accessible though, for reasons.


Do any of us live near a spacecraft launch platform?


I tried walking around outside the butterfly enclosure just now, as well as the garden they have out there. No dice.
I’ll have to see when I can get out to the Millhopper again…


I walked all around inside our aerospace engineering building, which has a replica of the Apollo capsule and other general space/plane bits…no luck though. I’m still holding out hope for the train station, but I don’t think I can work in a walk out that way until Saturday.


There’s a place called butterfly world that’s close to me


How’s it going Mounties? Any new ideas pop up over the weekend? I’m stymied with book stuff but I’ll take another long look at the riddle and see if I can come up with some new ideas. Please feel feee to join me. :sweat_smile:


Afraid not. The shear number of possible combinations, the sparse descriptions, coupled with my complete and utter lack of knowledge of the area around where I live (Spoiler: I hate the area I live in) means unless I get stupendously lucky and wander blindly into the area, I doubt I’ll find it if one of those clues is near me.

I still think a good starting step would be to figure out how the one memory we did stumble on relates to the poem. That would start to give us a framework for the poem and eliminate parts of it. But I’ve had no luck doing that.


Well, I have today off…

The responsible thing for me to do would be to get myself presentable, scrounge up the entrance fee, and try to give the Millhopper another walk-around before it rains (the stairs down are still closed, the news said a couple weeks ago that they may end up replacing them rather than just repairing).

Then again, I just woke up, so let’s see if I can manage it (if not, I can try again Friday or Saturday). :hermanthumbs:


I’m gonna try some og Mountaineer detective work.
Okay, so we have… (yes, I’m quoting myself)

I agree with @Viviane that the first stanza could be broken down into six clues:

On wheels
Or wings
On wires
Or things that grow but aren’t alive (My bet for @Remus 's clue)
That travel between north and south
Or twinkle in the sky

And we’re assuming all six first stanza clues could be paired with the second stanza clues:

A link in the address
Where gold bubbles flow
A mill I can reach
And minerals low (My bet for @Remus’s clue)
A meeting of waters
A jolt in the air

Regarding @Remus 's clue: My gut is that the museum being started with a mineral collection feels right, but having nothing to back that up other than it feeling all old and… AGP-y.

But I also think that might be a tip that these could be museums. You do “wander” around museums (a stretch, I know) So, going down that road we now have five potential pairs left:

  • One that pairs with some wheeled form of transportation.
  • One that pairs with flight or a flying form of transportation.
  • I think “on wires” and “a jolt in the air” is a pretty sure bet for a match.
  • @Cj_Heighton knows “A meeting of waters” relates to Kamloops so we just need to find the one that pairs with that.
  • Gold bubbles seems like it relates to champagne but I don’t know how that relates to any remaining first stanza clues… France? A town called Champagne?

I realize I have offered no help whatsoever or discovered anything you haven’t already discovered.

One thing… and this seems ridiculous… but thinking about “north and south” and the first line of the second stanza: a “link in” the address. Could “link in” be an oronym?
Link in =? Lincoln?


Good to see you roll up your sleeves and wade in, @Saberlane! Once a Mountaineer, always a Mountaineer.


Wow. :exploding_head: That’s amazing! Have to agree with @Augustus_Octavian; Once a Mountaineer, always a Mountaineer. Also, could “on wires” and “a jolt in the air” refer to a trollie or train? If I remember correctly, there’s a Mountiee with lives in Seattle were a magline? was put up for a World Fair.


Heres what I found on the Province called Champagne, I’m trying to think if we have any French Mounties? If not, has anyone been planning a trip? If not, I think its safe to cut this from our current list of working theories.


Heres a USA town in Illinois called Champaign, I know the spelling is different but… I know its a lot more local to some of you.


D45078CD-9074-4C6F-8D3B-39B3F27913E5Don’t know if this would work, but I have Champaign County right next to me.

I live in Sidney btw.


I think it would be worth exploring for sure!



Hhhhh. Okay. Gonna go track it down today.


Champaign, Illinois would make a lot more sense, I think. We don’t have any French Secret Society members, as far as I’m aware.

Looks like they’ve got a couple museums in the area. I noticed they have a planetarium. Could “Where gold bubbles flow or twinkle in the sky” be the full clue?

Edit: @Mr5yy - Is the Aviation Museum near you? Maybe the clue is ‘on wings’?


Sabes, what if “Minerals low” is also an oronymous clue? Minerals + “Low”-gan Museum?

And I don’t know about travelling, but North and South + Lincoln makes me think of the Lincoln Memorial (which I pass periodically on the interstate)…not a museum, per se, but maybe close enough to be worth checking out?

Edit: Lincoln + address. Gettysburg Address. That was a real thing. Feeling like I should maybe hit up the National Mall.


For the moment, all locations are probably worth checkign out if possible.